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Who is the most difficult composer to play?

Technically the most difficult composers would have to be Liszt and Rachmaninoff.

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You asked me a question about what I appreciate in Sorabji's music and I answered it to the best of my ability based upon many years of experience of it.

You wrote

"his music might set him apart from others - but so does Steve Reich or John Cage, but most of them are ridiculed for their musical abominations"; who is ridiculing Reich, Cage or Sorabji for their alleged "musical abominations"?

You then wrote

"I mean seriously, give a kid enough hours in the day, plenty of paint and tell them to create a mess, you'll get something very much like the above picture... and it sure as sh*t wouldn't be worth millions of dollars" You refer here to the Jackson Pollock that you reproduced above; give a kid enough hours in the day, a Bösendorfer 290 and tell them to do something and what you will not get is a performnce of Sorabji's Sequentia Cyclica!

You then note

"Ongoing 'classical' tradition??? I think the classical tradition broke around the turn of the 1900's where music became more clinical. People used music and the art world as social experiments to see if they could create music differently, but in doing so usually turned their art into political statements, experiments, or just made fun of the traditional classical forms and harmonies calling them 'antiquated'." Your view and the material upon which you seek to express it is gravely abd clearly limited by its selectivity; you mention the turn of the past century yet seem oblivious the the vast variety of fine music written between then and the outbreak of WWI by such composers as Elgar, Strauss, Magnard, Schmitt, Debussy, Mahler, Busoni, Ravel, Scriabin and so very many others.

Lastly, you write

"Look at John Cage's 4'33" or ASALP (I think that's the name), or even Steve Reich's clapping hands. Most of it is a curiosity, but in the long run bears no resemblance, depth or beauty to the music music created by Bach, (late) Beethoven, Chopin, Liszt, Alkan, Albéniz, Debussy, Busoni, Granados, Rachmaninoff, Ravel, Medtner or Szymanowski, if we're being honest" but I was looking at neither; Sorabji is very much in the traditions of those composers whom you rightly mention here.

Best,

Alistair

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Is jazz more complex than classical music?

Formally classical music is certainly more complex than jazz. Even if there are exceptions, the usual form in jazz is a very simple head-improvisation-head.

The definition of "complexity" as it pertains to music certainly changes throughout history. What is classically "complex" today -- say, Boulez and Ligeti -- is certainly quite unlike Beethoven's music, much of which was considered complex in the early 1800s. Yet, Bach is "complex" in a way different from, say, Boulez, Ligeti, and Beethoven. Jazz, of course, ranges as well, from quite a bit of complexity on the Black Saint label (I've been collecting the box sets of the Remastered Black Saint and Soul Note jazz recordings) to stuff I can play on guitar. Thelonious Monk is complex in a way different from the Black Saint improvisers. And so is Bill Evans. And, according to how you define "complex", some rock music (and perhaps even nursery rhymes) may be considered more complex than another type of music.... The more I consider the question "is Classical Music more 'complex' than Jazz?" the more I'm convinced the question itself is absurd. Sorry.

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