As we all know, a pianist can be fairly poor, barely making it as a performer, or can also be incredibly rich, touring constantly, making recordings, and getting paid tons of money for it.
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Read More »Daniel_pinao wrote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------A pianist never get a specific amount of money per recital or concert, it depends on how people paid for the ticketA pianist get more money when there's more audience and less money when there's less audience since his/her fee is a percentage of the box-office returns and the more the returns are the more is the feeThey're therefore not payed a specific amount of money but their fee is an established percentage of the returns at the box-officeSo, when a pianist is contacted for a concerto or recital he is said that his/her will be 70% or 40% o(or wathever) of the total returnsMusic performance is kind of a honest business in that you're not payed arbitrarily but you earn more when people like you and earn less when people don't like you, so they're deserved money and they come from several people tickets so they're not subtracted from someone elseJBY responds:This is absolutely NOT true, in the US or in Europe, though there are a few artists and venues who will make such arrangements. But that is the exception, not the rule. The fact is there are many venues, most in fact, which go to contract with an artist for a specific fee, regardless of the size of the audience. No pro in his right mind would ever be so amateurish to tie himself down to a risk it is the presenter's responsibility to take, regardless of how many people show up at the concert. I don't know a single one of my colleagues who would be quite so dumb, or whose agents, charged with negotiating contracts on their behalf, are that dense or stupid, either. If they are, they should be fired!Certainly, I would never enter into any such box office percentage agreement absent a contract for a specific underlying fee that is guaranteed no matter what. Last year, for example, in Sweden, I performed on the concert series at the Royal Palace in Stockholm, where there was such an arrangement, but I made certain that I had a a contract that specified my minimum fee ahead of time. So in addition to that I received a healthy portion of the box office and did pretty well.Daniel is a bit naive I am afraid about the music business. It isn't a nice or honest business at all, In fact, it is one of the most DISHONEST businesses of all, as national legislators have consistently failed to uphold the Law of Agency which governs much of what goes on inside it, though the same laws indeed govern the business dealings of the financial world. I am at work on an article about this very issue right now. The music business is in fact populated and run by those who, acitng as fiduciaries and brokers are supposed to be licensed under the Law of Agency in most countries, such as the UK and the US, but usually are not. In most states in the US, including Florida, agents are required by law to put up a $5000 bond just to do business at all. The sorry fact is that the music business is full of disreputable and dishonest people who routinely rob and cheat musicians. Just look at the recent debacle in New York where Communtiy Concerts, once in the reliable hands of Columbia Aritists, was sold to a famous independent impresario who then proceeded to steal more than 2 MILLION DOLLARS from her artists, who she never paid, though she was paid by the venues. She is now under investigation by the Attorney General of the State of New York, and will most certainly be prosecuted and jailed eventually. I know of another agent in California who is likewise crooked, and has been robbing artists left and right over the last three years, and who will soon be exposed to the light of day by me and others.Believe me: The music business is ugly, very , very ugly. The very laws that protect the public in the real estate and financial industries, which police those who work within it and keep those buinesses fundamentally and largely honest (notwithstanding a few horrid anomolies, of course, and dishonest individuals who get the greatest media attention --such as Enron) , are ignored in the music business. The laws that govern the financial world were designed to protect the public. But they also protect its own workers and brokers, who all know what the limits are, what ethics are all about, and what they can and cannot get away with . Anyone in the financial sector know that to engage in risky, unethical and illegal behavior will only result eventually in the irrevocable loss of their licenses and livelihoods, and possibly their freedom.Unfortunately, where the music business is concerned, our legislators simply turn a blind eye and presume that the so-called entertainment business is really not so serious or worthy of being governed or policed in the same way, thought the laws make absolutely no distinction when it comes to issues of fiduciary responsiblity, representation, agency , and negotiation on behalf of third parties. So you get a lot of people in the music business who routinely take unfair advantage of musicians, illegally requiring large retainers upfront, then illegally comingling these and their clients' fees and funds likewise with their own monies, blurring the lines and then failing to account for every penny. It's scandalous. A number of high profile lawsuits will be necessary to get things back on track, and plenty of media attention. Of course, there are musicans too, who are no better, and think they can get away without paying commissions to those agents who are in fact lawfully operating. Witness the lawsuit that bankrupted Andre Watts a couple of years ago, when he lost his suit, and several hundred thousand dollars, to his agent.Well the expose may be getting started now, in fact, and I am contributing to that attention for the sake of those musicians who have been dupbe, thanks to my international press and media forums.So take my advice, kids: NEVER believe anyone in this business simply because they say something. Get a contract. Get it in writing. Spell it out. Make sure the contract is enforceable and not written under duress or coercion.JOHN BELL YOUNG
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